Thursday, June 5, 2008

Potty Training Questions--and Some Tentative Answers

In response my plea for potty training advice and encouragement, here, which refers back to my potty training despair post, here, Lilybug and Melanie have raised some interesting questions about readiness. Lilybug has been contemplating potty training Lilybaby and observing the much invoked "signs of readiness," while Melanie asks:

"How do you know when your child is ready? What are good books to read? Should I even be worrying about this now or should I just wait and see?"

Well, I've never been one for reading lots of parenting books. I just kind of "wing it"!--you know, like teaching. ;) Actually, I've always had a lot of parenting advice courtesy of my mom, and having seen her in action, I have trusted her advice. So I can't recommend any books on potty training. It went off without a hitch with my son--and that was a long time ago, so I don't really remember the details. Having said this, I have heard potty lore, and I guess I've stubbornly decided not to try the quick & easy gimmicks of potty training.

I still think I'm a decent gauge of readiness. Readiness for me means

1) They show a conscious awareness of bodily functions
2) They are reasonably capable of communicating the need to use the bathroom
3) They show an inclination to use the bathroom.

The only one I question is that last one. Why, you might ask? Because an inclination to use the bathroom is maybe not developmental. Especially if they can "regress" in the way I'm seeing. Surely, she is developmentally ready, since she was almost there. But she's not particularly inclined right now.

Forgetting for a moment my "not reading parenting books" policy, Doodle has made me issue a plea for parenting books in the past. Blog-friend Sarah R. lent me her "baby whisperer" books--which I am long overdue in returning (sorry!!). The books are sensible, readable, and amusing. Here are some tidbits about potty training from Secrets of the Baby Whisperer for Toddlers:

--"I don't believe in pushing little ones into doing anything their bodies aren't ready for them to do, but at the same time, we need to present opportunities for children to learn. Sadly, too many parents are confused between two issues: behavior that needs to be taught and natural progressions (developmental milestones that automatically happen)."

[insert helpful metaphors]

--"Physical readiness for toilet training depends partially on your child's sphincter muscles. [. . .] It was once believed that these muscles didn't mature until the ace of two, but research is now divided on the subject. In any case, training is both a matter of physical readiness and practice."

--"A three- or four-year-old whose parents keep waiting for him to come 'round on his own already has control over his sphincter muscles, but he might never show an interest in 'going potty' unless he's given the right kind of guidance, encouragement, and sufficient opportunities to learn."

--"You must be observant . . . so as to identify the best 'window' for starting potty training--when your child's body and mind are ready and yet before the inevitable child/parent power struggles begin. For most children, the optimal time to begin is between eighteen months and two years." [proceed to guidelines with helpful acronym]

I want to pause there for a moment. I have never heard it phrased quite like this. Especially this phrase, which means so much for me with Doodle: "before the inevitable child/parent power struggles begin." I've clearly covered THAT topic before. In short, I missed the optimal window. But that's because of other received wisdom on potty training. You've all heard it--don't potty train when there is some major upheaval, life or family event. So what was going on last summer, when Doodle was about 18 months? I was pregnant and we were moving. Common wisdom says don't potty train around a move or when a sibling is expected. Which was fine for me, because I was exhausted from pregnancy and teaching and didn't think I would be able to do it effectively. However, a few times last summer, she did use the bathroom. On her own. No prompting from us, only assistance. Hello!! Window of opportunity!! And in retrospect, the birth of a new sibling was not traumatic for her as I feared it would be. We might have had a bit of potty training regression, but how would that be different from now?? So I waited. First mistake. *sigh*

I don't know if this helps with the readiness questions. I'm not sure it would necessarily have helped me, clouded as I was with anxiety and pregnancy hormones. You know the cliche about hindsight.

So more from the "baby whisperer." Here is her Help-ful acronym (ha ha):

H--Hold back until you see signs that your child is ready [She explains the signs that the child is aware of the sensation of peeing, etc.]

E--Encourage your child to connect bodily functions with words and actions

L--Limit your child's time on the potty

P--Praise the Lord and pass the toilet paper! [She extols the virtue of silliness and parental encouragement.]

Now, most of these I have known, but it's helpful to be reminded. Apart from missing the readiness window that would have lessened the conflict of the process, I have gotten a bit weak in the "Praise" category. 'Cause you know, after a while, it's just not that exciting. And life intervenes with all of its frustrations, and the newly mobile infant is eating paper in the living room, and "YAAAAAAAY!!!" changes to "yay. now wipe," and well, what the heck is the point if Momma isn't excited, right? Then I started getting impatient with accidents, since she was already doing it and at some point it should become expected behavior, right? So the rewards system came to seem more like punishment, I guess. *sigh*

The baby whisperer further offers the "Four Ps of Potty Training": Potty (as in potty seat), Patience (which I am sorely lacking), Practice, and Presence ("sit with him and cheer him on"--I've been remiss on this one sometimes, too, and I just couldn't wait until she would take the initiative to go & try herself).

So where do we go now that I've botched 2 of the signs? Well, this morning, as she clung to the nighttime pullup, I rather unceremoniously ripped it off. To stop her indignant wails, I changed the subject, and we went to look for the Cinderella panties that I bought recently. (No, it's not the same as Disney princesses. Trust me. It's a matter of marketing.) She has a sing-along with the mice from Cinderella singing about fixing Cinderella's dress for her. So when we found the panties, we sang the song, and she went to the bathroom without a fight. We haven't repeated that success this morning, but no accidents either. She simply has never wanted to "go" before the point of crisis. At least, not for a while. Perhaps because for 1/2 of the time, her efforts were spoiled by bubble bath irritation. Perhaps because of sheer toddler stubbornness. My first was never so toddler-y.

To deal with the not wanting to stop & use the bathroom, Academama suggested a timer. I may have to try this. There should be some novelty & excitement to hearing the buzzer or chime and saying, "Potty time! Potty time!" Perhaps we can circumvent the stubbornness. M&Ms as rewards don't work for her. She'd just as soon do without them as submit to someone else's will. I just hope that the battles of wills that have already occurred won't have any lasting effects.

So these are some preliminary answers and my revised strategies. Any thoughts? I'll keep you posted. . .

A Post-Script

In all of this, I have been bothered by the rhetoric of potty-training, in which "the earlier the better" is the standard mentality. This usually has to do with the convenience of the parents, the expense of diapers, the convenience of the day care workers, and other things that are absolutely irrelevant to the toddler or his or her well-being. The other problem I have with this is that it sets expectations for the parent and the child, to which they are held accountable. I'd like to stop being such an over achiever and not let it bother me, but truth is, I'm judging both of us because of it, and that's the last thing we need right now. :( So I'll be working on that, too.

And Another. . .

Inspired by Jen
, I decided to see what I was blogging about last year. On June 11, my post-ultrasound and post-move post contained the following observation:

Overall, now that the major part of the stress is behind me, I can declare, tentatively, that the move was a success. The baby is much freer and happier, albeit getting banged up from running around boxes. She goes to sleep much earlier because she exerts more energy during the day. We take occasional walks around the complex and have even gone swimming once. It is a bit hard to keep track of her sometimes, but she has some little designated play places and is exploring new (old) toys (courtesy of brother and aunts & uncles)--like dishes & Potato Heads. She is also expressing interest in potty training, but I don't know if I'm ready for that. . .

Yeah. Window of opportunity. Missed it.

11 comments:

Melanie Bettinelli said...

Thanks for this. All I can say at this point is that Bella may or may not be ready, but I'm pretty sure I'm not. At least not just now. For one thing, we are hoping to move by the end of the summer. And that's going to be crazy enough with a toddler and a baby. Also, the baby is pretty much attached to the breast ALL THE TIME. I'm just not sure I can muster the energy or enthusiasm to make potty training work.

So far the only "sign" I've really seen is that she gets a bit disturbed sometimes before getting into her bath and when I insist on putting her in she urinates in the tub. We don't make a huge deal of it but it definitely disturbs her. I suppose when she gets frantic like that I could try to sit her on the toilet. Well that and there was the time she took off her dirty diaper and was trying to put on a clean one, realized she couldn't and was yelling for wipes.


Maybe I'm missing a window, maybe I've already missed it, but I'm sure she won't be in diapers forever. My little niece who turns three this month was just declared fully potty trained last month. Her parents made the announcement at Bella's birthday. She's their sixth child and this is the first time they haven't had a kid in diapers in about fifteen years except possibly for one small window of a few months.

I suppose sometime soon I should acquire some kind of potty seat. I have no idea what the options there are. (Any advice on that one?) One more thing to clutter up the bathroom!

mrsdarwin said...

Frankly, no matter how much work I put into it (and it's less with each successive child) it wasn't until they hit their third birthday that there was that "click". Then potty training was a breeze, comparatively. We've started some work with the 27-month-old, but although she loves to kick her legs on the potty and sing, we haven't had a huge amount of success. In fact, "going potty" has become a bedtime stalling tactic, and I won't allow that. If that hinders her training a bit, so be it.

Literacy-chic said...

Thank you, Mrs. D!! I wouldn't allow the stalling technique, either. It is nice to know about the magic of hitting 3. I feel like my son was 3, as I think I mentioned, and so were all of my siblings except one, who was potty trained by about her 2nd birthday. (Little show off!) I think that has been bopping around in my head, too... Melanie, the concerns you express are very similar to the ones that I had last summer. I couldn't imagine taking the VERY SPIRITED toddler who STILL DOESN'T LISTEN when I say to come INTO THE HOUSE instead of running around to play when we come home from errands (or even the PARK) to the bathroom while juggling an infant--especially one who is breastfeeding. We have many "throw the baby on the floor and run to the bathroom" moments. Darn that $300 deposit on the Montessori school. I probably would not have stressed about it had I not worried so much about NOT putting her in the 2 year old class (which will actually be a mixed age class).

Today has been a success so far, as long as we sing several rounds of "Cinderelly" to go along with the Cinderella panties. Maybe I need to invest in some Mermaid panties so we can sing "Under the Sea" on the toilet... Hmmm...

Potty seat recommendations... I would HIGHLY recommend, first, one that you can use freestanding (that is, it can be used by itself) but which ALSO can be put as a seat on top of the toilet. Bella may not ever be interested in the seat, knowing already that you're supposed to use the toilet--Doodle never wanted to sit on the potty. BUT having the seat to put on top of the toilet is great back-up. When choosing one, look fir the ones that do not "hug" their bottom and legs. I guess good positioning is what they're after, but little children don't always sit like that and can outgrow the seat if they have thunder thighs! Other than that, unless you like characters, princess thrones, or magical pee-music, look for the cheapest you can find! ;)

Literacy-chic said...

Incidently, I read about poor Bella's diaper trouble. I guess there is an early "window" and a later one, and perhaps overall family situation has to be considered before leaping on the early window. I don't feel like such a slacker mom anymore! ;)

AcadeMama said...

One thing I forgot to mention, which may also address concerns discussed here about sitting in/cluttering up the bathrooom, is the fact that with E, we've moved her potty seat to the living room. Yes, the room where we live. Here's the reasoning:
1)she doesn't like to be "away from the action" or the rest of the family;
2)she's more willing to sit on the potty on a regular basis (i.e. every 30 minutes or so);
3)it's closer than the bathroom, which will help prevent accidents that can happen while trying to get to the bathroom;
4)it's a visual reminder, something that she sees frequently as she plays, which (I'm hoping) will make it seem like less of an interruption to her playing
5)she can sit on it whenever she likes, without having to wait on someone to take her to the bathroom
6)it helps to get everyone in the family involved in the process & transition (Mommy, Daddy, and big sister give her praise for doing such a good job when she takes potty breaks, even if no potty is actually produced)

Also, to speak to readiness signs, she's 19-months and almost always tells me "Poo-poo" right before or just when she has a bowel movement, which she doesn't like to have hanging out in her diaper. The material I've read suggests that this is the first type of bodily function a toddler will recognize, as urination is much harder to "feel" in today's diapers and connect to the physical body. We're not rushing E, and I have no goal or deadline for when she should be fully potty trained. We're just responding to her lead and guiding her in ways that seem to make sense, considering her needs.

Literacy-chic said...

Academama--Do you have her in disposable diapers or have you switched to something else?

AcadeMama said...

We have her in disposable diapers when we are not at home or when she's at montessori during the day. In the evenings, we let her wear training panties, which she prefers, until bedtime. We started doing this because I remembered the suggestion that letting toddlers have some accidents, especially with pee rather than poo, helps them make the connection between what they see coming out of their body and what they feel inside their body. I've seen this in action with E during the few accidents she's had. Obviously, this has it's disadvantages (it could easily backfire if a child decides it's no big deal to have accidents all the time) and relies on parents' willingness to do some extra cleaning. For my husband and I, it's just something we decided to try, for short periods of time, and we'll see how it goes. I have been surprised, however, by how much she *loves* her panties. She'll conduct house-wide searches to find a pair and bring them to us to put on her.

Melanie Bettinelli said...

"Other than that, unless you like characters, princess thrones, or magical pee-music, look for the cheapest you can find! ;)"

Laughing out loud at the magical pee music! Given my strong stance against toys that make noise, I think we can rule out singing potties. Likewise my dislike of characters in general. I toss all hand-me-downs that have large logos or characters. No Dora, Elmo, or Disney princesses on my kid. I do make an exception for classic Pooh. But I can't imagine a Pooh potty, as appropriately punny as that might be.

John said...

All this talk about pottry-training. LilyBaby made pee pee in the potty this morning and I couldn't be more proud. Of course, we put her on the potty as soon as she woke up and it's more of accident than anything else...but it's a start. I think LilyBaby was as suprised as we were but there were hugs and kisses all around.

-LilyBug

Literacy-chic said...

YAAAAAAY! Wow! What is she? 15 months?? :D [Big smile for LilyBaby!]

Sarah Reinhard said...

A month late reading this :(

Glad BW helped you! :)

My 3yo was a breeze potty-training (I can say now...at the time, not so much)...but I did read BW FIRST and I also did signing (which helps with the communication thing). I found it to be more a matter of training ME and buckling down, which I think you have mentioned.

So, I'll pray for you. Surely Mother Mary struggled with potty-training Jesus? :)